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Why China’s hypersonic missile test matters for the U.S.

1 big thing

Axios

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🗓️ 19 October 2021

⏱️ 10 minutes

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Summary

China tested a hypersonic missile last August, according to new reporting from the Financial Times. China says it wasn't a nuclear-capable missile, but a routine spacecraft check. So how worried should we be? Plus, more tension between the Joes: Biden and Manchin. And, remembering former Secretary of State Colin Powell. Guests: Axios' Bethany Allen-Ebrahimian and Hans Nichols. Credits: Axios Today is produced in partnership with Pushkin Industries. The team includes Niala Boodhoo, Sara Kehaulani Goo, Dan Bobkoff, Alexandra Botti, Nuria Marquez Martinez, Sabeena Singhani, Alex Sugiura, Lydia McMullen-Laird, Michael Hanf, and David Toledo. Music is composed by Evan Viola. You can reach us at podcasts@axios.com. You can text questions, comments and story ideas to Niala as a text or voice memo to 202-918-4893. Go deeper: A different kind of cold war Scoop: Manchin's red lines Obama says Powell exemplified what America "can and should be" Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Good morning. Welcome to Axios today. It's Tuesday, October 19th. I'm Naila Boone. Here's

0:08.8

what you need to know today. More tension between the Joes, Biden, and Manchin. Plus, remembering

0:14.5

former Secretary of State Colin Powell. But first, today's one big thing. Why China's

0:20.2

hypersonic missile test matters for the U.S. The financial times just broke the story that

0:32.2

China tested a hypersonic missile last August. China says it wasn't a nuclear capable missile,

0:38.6

but a routine spacecraft check. So how worried should we be about this? Here to explain what's

0:44.5

happening and what all of this means for us is Bethany Allen Ebrahimian, Axios' China reporter,

0:49.5

Good Morning Bethany. Hi Naila. Can you explain the context for what we know about what's happening

0:55.0

around this missile test? So this is the latest in a series of pretty significant headlines about

1:02.7

the relationship between China and the rest of the world or the U.S. and China. So a few months

1:08.2

ago, satellite images revealed that there are hundreds of new missile silos in Western China

1:14.8

that have been constructed. We've also seen a dramatic rise in the number of Chinese bombers

1:21.4

and jet fighters that have flown close to Taiwanese airspace. And we've also seen, you know, on the U.S.

1:28.0

side, more alliances and pacts that are being formed with the aim of countering China. So this is

1:34.8

the environment that we're talking about. Some pretty serious tensions here. Bethany, I think

1:41.0

oftentimes when we hear about missile tests, we are used to hearing these come from a place like

1:46.3

North Korea. Is it fair to compare these two countries? How dangerous is this test? Well, these

1:53.7

are quite different things because if you compare China and North Korea, North Korea is very much

1:59.2

a rogue regime. It does not participate in the international system, whereas China is well

2:04.6

situated within the international system. And thus has a lot of reasons and a lot of incentive

2:11.0

to abide by treaties that it has signed to not jeopardize its standing. And something else is that

2:18.2

China has had nuclear weapons for half a century and hasn't used them. So the fact that it's a

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