And Cory Booker brought in a social media influencer on TikTok to talk with Democratic senators.

And one of the purposes of this meeting was to try to help members of Congress set up TikTok accounts on personal cell devices to evade that exact federal device ban that you just mentioned a few minutes

ago, Michelle.

So we have a problem on the Democratic side of the political aisle here.

And on the Republican side of the aisle, last year, it was Republicans like former representative

Mike Gallagher who led the charge to pass that legislation that required TikTok to separate from CCP control.

The problem we have now is that President Trump has just changed his position on the issue.

He was very supportive of banning TikTok in his first administration.

And I think TikTok's impact on his successful re-election has shifted his understanding

because the GOP did very well with young voters, better than they have historically done.

And I think he views TikTok as part of that electoral success.

So now we have this unfortunate situation where both parties have

political reasons to keep TikTok operational. China. I talk about China a lot. And the reason is that they are a scary actor in geopolitics. They're not fond of the United States. I don't care what they say, what kind of good face they put on. They see a future that is dominated by China.

And what's wrong with that? Plenty. Just do a cursory look on Google at some point or even on

X. Probably not TikTok because China owns TikTok basically and they're going to show you only the good side of China.

That is a fact.

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Michael Sobolick has been on this show before.

He's a senior fellow at the Hudson Institute and specializes in United States-China relations, the great power

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