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🗓️ 8 October 2025
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| 0:00.0 | I would like for the U.S. to be 20% more engineering. I think that it, you know, that's how you get a few more homes constructed and wind turbines and solar and mass transit as well. And to recover some of this engineering muscle that has lacked for quite a while. Just 20%. That's not bad. |
| 0:18.4 | Seems low. 20%. That's good enough. I'll take it. |
| 0:21.2 | We're close, right? I guess we're... |
| 0:23.2 | We still have that DNA here. We just need to polish it. |
| 0:26.4 | We just need to, you know, work out and, you know, work out these muscles and get stronger again. |
| 0:34.8 | Bankless Station, Dan Wong is the author of Breakneck. It's China's Quest Engineer the Future. We've got a lot of questions about China here today. Dan, welcome to Bankless. |
| 0:44.5 | Hey, Ryan. Good to be here. |
| 0:45.9 | Okay, so the central idea of your book is that the U.S. is kind of a lawyerly type of society, that China is more of a builder, engineer society. |
| 0:56.3 | Can you break that down for us? What do you mean by this? |
| 0:58.7 | Take a look, especially at the elites of both countries. I used to be a fellow at the Yale Law School |
| 1:03.6 | when I was really felt like I was surrounded by all the future aspirants of the White House |
| 1:09.4 | who really want to become president one day. |
| 1:12.5 | And so these are people who are very smart, fun, interesting in all sorts of ways, but |
| 1:18.3 | especially very ambitious. And indeed, the U.S. is really run by lawyers for 16 presidents from |
| 1:24.8 | Washington to Lincoln, 13 of them were lawyers. |
| 1:28.1 | Every single nominee of the Democratic Party between 1980 to 24, most recently with Harris, |
| 1:34.0 | had gone to law school. |
| 1:35.5 | Much of the U.S. Senate has law degrees, only one of them is an engineer. |
| 1:41.2 | By contrast in China, much more of the leadership had degrees in mechanical engineering, |
| 1:47.0 | electrical engineering, thermal engineering, whatever else. |
| 1:50.8 | And they really treat society, the economy, and the environment as just a giant engineering |
| 1:55.9 | project. |
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