You've described it as the rudest interview subject that you've ever encountered.

Shebby's way of dealing with things is doing bits.

For someone who is so sharp, he's incredibly sensitive.

And he can, you know, he can dish it out, but he can't take it.

I was a huge fan.

I had no idea about his reputation, but little by little,

I started hearing more. And let me tell you, people start emailing you and everyone has a story.

Hello and welcome to Obsess the podcast. I'm Matt Wilstein from The Daily Beast. And in a little bit,

I'm going to be talking

with the director of a new documentary that I am personally obsessed with. It's called I'm Chevi

Chase and you're not. And you're going to get to hear me ask director Marina Zenevich

what it was like when Chevy Chase called her essentially stupid to her face during the

taping of the documentary. So that is some fun stuff coming up. But first, I'm here with my partner in crime on this podcast, Kevin Fallon. Kevin, how's it going? I'm good. I'm still giggling at that title. I'm Jeffrey Chasin, you're not. Yeah, that was a sign-off on a weekend update. I don't know if you have to be kind of old to remember that.

Yeah, no, it's just, it's really funny just to hear out of context.

Yes, yes, yes.

Well, you and I, yeah, you and I are old enough, maybe not to remember Saturday Night Live in the 70s,

but we are old enough to remember some nostalgic TV, and that's sort of what I wanted to get into today, because I've been watching a show this week that really just brings me back to the, really the classic days of watching network TV,

even though it is not a network show.

Can you guess what I'm talking about, Kevin?

I think so.

If it has anything to do with the medical drama that I used to sneak down the stairs when

I was growing up and hide behind the couch, my parents were watching it on TV, and be kind

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