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Science Magazine Podcast

Why chatbots lie, and can synthetic organs and AI replace animal testing?

Science Magazine Podcast

Science Podcast

News, News Commentary, Science

4.3842 Ratings

🗓️ 14 August 2025

⏱️ 30 minutes

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Summary

First up on the podcast, producer Meagan Cantwell and Contributing Correspondent Sara Reardon discuss alternative approaches to animal testing, from a heart on a chip to a miniorgan in a dish.   Next on the show, Expert Voices columnist Melanie Mitchell and host Sarah Crespi dig into AI lies. Why do chatbots fabricate answers and pretend to do math? Mitchell describes the stress tests large language models undergo—called red teaming—and the steps needed to better understand how they “think.”   Melanie Mitchell is a professor at the Santa Fe Institute. You can read all her Expert Voices columns here.   This week’s episode was produced with help from Podigy.   About the Science Podcast   Authors: Sarah Crespi; Meagan Cantwell; Melanie Mitchell; Sara Reardon Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

This podcast is supported by Jian Zhao Tong, Liverpool University, where East meets West to redefine the future of learning and discovery.

0:08.9

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0:11.6

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0:26.8

This podcast is supported by the Icon School of Medicine at Mount Sinai,

0:32.1

the academic arm of the Mount Sinai Health System in New York City,

0:35.8

and one of America's leading research medical schools.

0:39.1

What are researchers on heart health working on to transform patient care and prolong lives?

0:44.6

Find out in a special supplement to Science magazine prepared by the Icon School of Medicine at Mount Sinai in partnership with science.

0:52.4

Visit our website at www.

0:54.3

at www.science.org and search for Frontiers of Medical Research, dash heart.

0:59.9

The Icon School of Medicine in Mount Sinai, we find a way.

1:05.5

This is the science podcast for August 14, 2025.

1:09.2

I'm Sarah Crespi.

1:10.5

First this week, producer Megan Cantwell and

1:12.6

contributing correspondent, Sarah Reardon, discuss alternative approaches to animal testing,

1:18.5

from a heart on a chip to a mini organ in a dish. Next on the show, expert voices columnist

1:25.0

Melanie Mitchell digs into artificial intelligences lies.

1:30.3

Why do chatbots fabricate answers and pretend to do math?

1:34.3

Melanie describes the stress tests large language models undergo, called red teaming,

1:39.3

and the steps needed to better understand what's going on inside these models.

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