The response by so many fellow Americans who are celebrating his death, who are mocking his death,

our culture is in desperate need of healing and restoration.

What happens when a nation loses one of its most influential voices, and what can we learn from the legacy he leaves behind? The idea might have been the enemy, but the person was not the enemy.

We have a lot to learn from Charlie's methodology.

What is the role of faith in shaping America's future?

And how should we move forward?

If we want to make America great again, we have to make America godly again.

There's a natural law that most people recognize.

In this episode, I sit down with Pastor Jackson Lawmeyer to reflect on the assassination

of Charlie Kirk and the work of the Trump administration to strengthen religious liberty

in America. He's the author of Chasing administration to strengthen religious liberty in America.

He's the author of Chasing After the Wind, Why Nobody is Catching What Everybody is Chasing.

This is American Thought Leaders, and I'm Yanya Kellick.

Pastor Jackson Lawmeyer, such a pleasure to have you on American Thought Leaders.

Thank you so much for having me. It's an honor. Our plan was to speak about how faith in America

has been under attack and what this administration is doing to try to deal with that.

And then Charlie Kirk was assassinated. Tell me what you're thinking.

And it's tough because Charlie was a friend of mine and it's one of those things, you know,

it can happen. You don't think it ever will happen, but then it did happen. And America lost

a legend, the body of Christ, lost an ambassador to an entire generation. I called him America's youth pastor.

And a wife lost a husband.

Two kids lost their father.

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