Hello, hello everybody, and welcome back to another episode of fluently forward today on the

podcast. We have a fantastic guest for a wonderful show. Welcome, Tanks to fluently Ford, how you doing?

Thank you so much for having me. I'm so excited to be here. I can't wait. I think it's going to be so much fun. You are obviously, you are an author, you are a content creator, you were the internet's big sister. You've been doing this for how many years now? Four, yeah, I can't believe it.

Four years, it seems like a lifetime.

I'm just so excited to have you on

because obviously you're into celebrities,

you love celeb culture, I love all your content so much I I feel like I'm a deep

celebrity person so meaning like you like to go behind the scenes or something meaning

I've been a pop culture follower for so long and I feel like I know a lot of deep

lore that a lot of people don't and I feel like I have an appreciation for it that's

kind of predates obviously the Tik-Toc era and all that so what's your favorite like

for me like when Demi Lovato and Selina Gomez stop being friends that was like

the first time I was ever like hooked to like pages of a magazine.

Yeah, I think for me it was more when Lindsay Lohan and

Nicole Ricci were really thin and I was like I need to know everything about this.

Like I need to look at every single picture I mean the

Birken bags and like even the way that they would all hold their bodies is very

maybe problematically burned into my brain but like the Birken bag and like just the long limbs and like coming out of the

clubs I was like I am obsessed with these girls and also the tabloids back then like I

feel like crazy we grew up with like maybe not exactly paparazzi like killing people in the streets by chasing them down

But we had the tabloids of like who's pregnant? Let's look at your baby bump like who's skinny look at her bones and that would so yeah

You're getting your groceries and that's like on the

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