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ποΈ 20 July 2024
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Father Pine talks about Versus Populum and Ad Orientem postures for saying Mass. He talks about why one may be used their bases in Church documents, and Why he prefers Ad Orientem.
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0:00.0 | Hello, my name is Father Gregory Pine, and I am a Dominican friar of the province of St Joseph. |
0:05.0 | I teach at the Dominican House of Studies and I work for the domestic Institute, and this is Pines with Aquinas. |
0:11.0 | In this episode, I would like to talk about liturgical orientation. |
0:14.6 | Certainly in the last three years the arguments regarding the old right and the |
0:19.3 | new right have heated up and with those arguments the arguments regarding |
0:23.7 | ad orientum and versus populum celebration have also heated up. |
0:27.6 | But when arguments heat up it doesn't necessarily lead to better discourse |
0:32.0 | or clearer discourse sometimes just leads to better discourse or clearer discourse, sometimes it just leads to louder |
0:34.7 | discourse and angrier discourse. |
0:37.0 | So do I think that we can rise above said loud and angry discourse? |
0:40.4 | Probably not. |
0:41.4 | But I do think that we can do our best to host the arguments and to work our way |
0:45.2 | through some of them so that way we can have a better appreciation for the church's tradition |
0:50.0 | and hopefully a better appropriation thereof. So the church's orientation, let's get after it, here we go. |
0:55.0 | Okay, so when it comes to this issue, you got lots of takes, and you've also got lots of arguments. |
1:05.0 | I think the general impression is that a younger |
1:06.8 | generation is more for the celebration of the Sacred Mysteries |
1:10.1 | odd orientum, whereas an older generation is more against the celebration of the Holy |
1:14.8 | Mass at Orientum. |
1:16.8 | Whether or not that's true, I don't know. |
1:18.3 | I haven't looked at the data closely, or I don't know how that data would be gathered |
1:21.9 | slash whether it is gathered regardless. |
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