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£1,500. The New Statesman.

Once upon a time, Donald Trump loved to talk about conspiracy theories.

Now, well, not so much.

Why can't Trump shake the Epstein story?

And what could it mean for his presidency?

I'm Katie Stallard, and this is the New Statesman podcast.

So last week, Freddie and I talked about how Donald Trump wanted his supporters to move on and stop talking about Jeffrey Epstein and how that seemed to be driving a wedge between him and the Maga faithful.

Since then, the US president has continued his attempts to distance himself from the convicted sex offender, Jeffrey Epstein.

But it's not really working, is it, Freddie?

Well, no, here we are.

We're still talking about it, as is most people in Washington and on the hill.

And it seems to be dominating the conversation.

I remember during all of those prime ministers that came and went over the past four years, you would feel that sense of momentum in Parliament.

And that's often what these stories are about.

They're not so much about the daily part of the news.

That's almost immaterial.

You know, who said what?

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