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The Business of Fashion Podcast

Why Can’t Fashion Fix Its Labour Exploitation Problem?

The Business of Fashion Podcast

The Business of Fashion

Fashion & Beauty, Business, Arts

4.6770 Ratings

🗓️ 25 February 2025

⏱️ 26 minutes

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Summary

The revelation this year of child labour in India’s cotton fields and modern-day slavery in Taiwanese garment factories is the latest scandal concerning worker treatment in fashion’s supply chain. New abuses keep emerging despite efforts by brands, manufacturers, activists, and governments to set clear labour guidelines. Watchdog groups try new tactics to combat the problem, but they face systemic forces far beyond fashion.


Sustainability editor Sarah Kent joins executive editor Brian Baskin and senior correspondent Sheena Butler-Young to discuss the problematic labour dynamics underpinning the fashion system.


Key Insights: 


  • Persistent abuse in fashion’s supply chains is not merely about isolated incidents but reflects deep-rooted socio-economic challenges. In India’s cotton industry, for example, many farmworkers come from extremely marginalised and impoverished communities where exploitation is a norm rather than an exception. Families often work together under hazardous conditions, with little oversight or recourse. “So you're not just dealing with an issue of exploitation that is coming from the [fashion] industry, you're dealing with a culture that is ingrained in the way that community works – and that is a very difficult, complicated thing to try and manage, ” explains Kent. 


  • Transparency in supply chains remains critical. Despite decades of advocacy, many brands struggle to verify the origins of their cotton. The global cotton supply chain’s complexity—where materials pass through multiple suppliers and traders—makes tracing raw cotton back to its source extremely difficult. “The traders will have been getting the cotton from ginners who will have got raw cotton from … maybe hundreds of thousands of small family farms aggregated it, ginned it, sold it onto a trader who then sells it up through the supply chain. So by the time it even gets to a spinning factory, tracing it back to the farm where it came from is really, really difficult,” says Kent.


  • In Taiwan’s textile industry, systemic issues like excessive recruitment fees burden migrant workers, yet change is stalling. Despite growing awareness and repeated calls for reform, manufacturers have little incentive to alter longstanding practices without coordinated industry action and regulatory intervention. As Kent notes, “Without other brands operating in Taiwan coming together and trying to do the same thing, the industry as a whole isn't going to move.” And without regulatory shifts, manufacturers have little reason to remove recruitment fee burdens from workers.


  • Consumer trust in ethical claims is vital for brands that present themselves as responsible. However, when ethical certifications and claims are diluted by inconsistent practices and opaque supply chains, consumers quickly lose faith. This erosion of trust can undermine efforts to promote responsible consumption. “If consumers lose trust in what is meant to be a signifier of doing better, then you risk people not caring at all,” Kent warns. “No one's going to pay more for a product that promises to be more responsible and more ethical when it's when they don't believe that it is.”


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0:00.0

Hello and welcome to the debrief from the business of fashion where each week we explore our most pressing industry stories with the correspondents who bring them to life.

0:17.0

I'm senior correspondent Sheena Butler Young.

0:19.4

And I'm executive editor Brian Baskin.

0:21.9

Today we're addressing a problem everyone in the industry says must be solved and yet

0:26.9

never seems to get fixed, which is the poor treatment of so many of the workers in fashion

0:31.5

supply chain.

0:32.9

BOF has published reports in recent weeks on child labor in India's cotton fields and modern-day slavery

0:38.8

in Taiwanese garment factories. And that's this year, 2025, 12 years after the Rana Plaza

0:45.7

factory collapse, and 30 years after Nike's sweatshop scandals. And I'll throw in about 200 years

0:51.1

after Charles Dickens wrote about this. Joining us to break it all down and discuss the roadblocks to substantive and long-lasting

0:57.8

change is B-O-F sustainability editor, Sarah Kent.

1:01.3

Hi, Sarah.

1:01.9

Welcome back to the debrief podcast.

1:04.1

Hi, guys.

1:04.8

Thanks so much for having me.

1:06.1

I feel like I always bring the fun topics.

1:09.3

That's a good way to put the fun topics. Well, they're very

1:12.1

important topics for sure. So Sarah, we're talking about two different but equally concerning

1:17.8

reports since just the start of 2025. They're laying bare these persistent challenges in creating

1:23.1

fair labor conditions in fashion supply chains. Now, this kind of thing, as Brian points out,

1:27.7

keeps happening over and over and over again. Why is all this coming to a head right now?

1:32.9

I don't even know that it is coming to a head right now. As Brian said, we've seen these incidents

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