Hello and welcome to the G0 World podcast. I'm Ian Bremmer, and this is where you will find

extended versions of my show on public television. And today, we are looking at the campus

protests that continue to rock the United States and increasingly universities around the world.

The calls to campus leadership have run the gamut, but the central

rallying cry is divestment from Israel. Whether that means divesting from Israeli donors,

Israeli businesses, or other Israeli ties depends on the campus or the protester. Thousands of students

have been willing to risk suspension, expulsion, and even arrest to make their demands heard.

Joining me to talk about the protests sweeping America's universities is Ibu Patel.

His nonprofit Interfaith America has been working with hundreds of college campuses to foster healthier debate and discussion.

In other words, he's got his work cut out for him.

Let's get to it.

Ivo Patel, welcome to GZero World. Hi, Ian. Thanks for having me.

So Ivo, you run this organization called Interfaith America, and it's had a big impact on college campuses across the country.

Tell us a little bit, just for an audience that might not know it,

what your role is and what your role has been in this crisis.

We are the largest organization of the United States that works with diversity issues,

including religious diversity.

We work across diversity categories, but religious diversity is something that we include

proactively rather than ignore. We help colleges design

environments of cooperation. We have an article called the practices for pluralism on college

campuses, and we're telling college campuses, there are seven things you ought to do, from

presidents making public statements about pluralism to training for every first year student

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