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Hello and welcome to a special Saturday edition of Coffee House Shots.

I'm Michael Simmons, the Spectator's Economics Editor, and today I am delighted to be joined by two self-confessed yimbies.

Chris Curtis, MP for Milton Keynes North and the co-chair of the Labour Growth Group,

and Maxwell Marlow, the Director of Policy at the Yimbi Initiative. Now, Maxwell, let's start

with you because you're a maker of hats. And if anyone listening has made sad life choices, like the free of us,

which led them to being at either the Conservative Party conference or the Labour conference

just a few weeks ago, they will have seen many people wearing baseball caps or bucket caps

that said, build, baby, build. Maxwell, what is build baby build? And what's a

yimby? So build baby build is the overriding ideology, I'd say, of people who want growth in this

country. And it will surprise spectator listeners to hear that we haven't been very good at building anything for a very long

time. So what the overall idea is, is getting together policy people, getting together

politicians, activists, economists, wonks, journalists, you name it. And we just want to put some

fire in the belly of our government in order to actually break down the barriers that stop

us from building things. So that's, you know, completely redoing planning laws, that's changing the way in which we deal with environmental mitigations. That's ensuring that fundamentally that, a, young people have somewhere to live, because as we know, it's incredibly hard to rent or buy a house nowadays, but also that we can build the infrastructure we want. That's railways, that's airports, that's factories, you name it, we want to build it. So how does that manifest itself through yimbism? Well, yimbism is yes in my backyard. And what that means is we are not hypocrites. We're not going to say, yes, we need to build loads of stuff. And then as soon as a planning application comes through for a development in our area,

we're not going to turn up to the planning meeting and say no, thank you. So we're really

passionate about putting our actions first and foremost where our words are going. And Chris,

why, in your opinion, is Yimbism important? Because we've let down an entire generation.

We've set up an entire system that means

people who are now growing up into their 20s, 30s, 40s, came of age in the great financial

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