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TRIGGERnometry

Why Britain Arrests 30 People EVERY DAY For Speech

TRIGGERnometry

Konstantin Kisin & Francis Foster

News, Politics, Society & Culture

4.62.6K Ratings

🗓️ 6 August 2025

⏱️ 69 minutes

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Lord Toby Young is a British journalist, social commentator, and political activist known for his outspoken views and involvement in education and free speech advocacy. Founder of the Free Speech Union - https://freespeechunion.org/ Follow Toby: X - https://x.com/toadmeister Triggernometry is proudly independent. Thanks to the sponsors below for making that possible: - Protect your wealth with The Pure Gold Company. Get your free investor guide at https://pure-gold.co/trigger - Go to https://shipstation.com and use code TRIGGER to sign up for your FREE trial. - Shopify! Sign up for a £1 per month trial at https://www.shopify.co.uk/trigger/ Join our exclusive TRIGGERnometry community on Substack! https://triggernometry.substack.com/ OR Support TRIGGERnometry Here: Bitcoin: bc1qm6vvhduc6s3rvy8u76sllmrfpynfv94qw8p8d5 Shop Merch here - https://www.triggerpod.co.uk/shop/ Advertise on TRIGGERnometry: [email protected] Find TRIGGERnometry on Social Media: https://twitter.com/triggerpod https://www.facebook.com/triggerpod/ https://www.instagram.com/triggerpod/ About TRIGGERnometry: Stand-up comedians Konstantin Kisin (@konstantinkisin) and Francis Foster (@francisjfoster) make sense of politics, economics, free speech, AI, drug policy and WW3 with the help of presidential advisors, renowned economists, award-winning journalists, controversial writers, leading scientists and notorious comedians. 00:00 Introduction 07:34 The Free Speech Guardrails Of The Bill 11:39 Removing Anonymity On The Internet 19:27 Are You Concerned This Is Just A Way Of Censoring People? 29:29 The Left's Instinct Is To Keep People Safe 37:06 Peter Kyle Saying Nigel Farage Is On The Side Of Jimmy Saville 42:06 You Won't Be Able To Suppress People's Concerns About Illegal Migration 43:44 The Government Is Demanding Access To Messaging Apps Like WhatsApp And Signal 49:30 The Difference Between Tolerance And Respect 54:47 Blasphemy Laws 59:42 The Free Speech Union's Case Load 01:03:43 What's The One Thing We're Not Talking About That We Really Should Be? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

When I first started the Free Speech Union, I didn't think it could get any worse, hopelessly naive.

0:07.0

And actually, all we've been able to do is kind of hold back the incoming tide a little bit.

0:13.0

So that's over 30 people a day being arrested.

0:16.0

Are you worried that this is basically a way of censoring people so that they don't challenge the government?

0:22.1

It's a kind of willed naivety and a kind of avoidance of confronting their own policy failures.

0:28.9

I think Sakea Stama, Peter Kyle, do genuinely think that the Online Safety Act doesn't go nearly far enough.

0:39.6

So I think in all likelihood,

0:43.3

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1:21.8

Lord Young, director and founder of the Free Speech Union, welcome back to Trigonometry.

1:23.1

Good to be here, Constantine.

1:27.1

It's good to have you on. Obviously, we want to talk about the Online Safety Act,

1:46.0

which has effectively come into force in recent days. To most people surprise, the impact of it has been to most people's surprise. Let's talk about it. What is it? How is it introduced and why are people now, you know, you see lots of people talking about using VPNs and there's lots of online censorship effectively happening in this country. Talk to us about

1:50.3

the Online Safety Act. So the Online Safety Act is a piece of legislation that was partly prompted by

1:59.9

a moral panic about children self-harming and in some cases committing suicide as a consequence of things they'd seen online.

2:10.9

And it was first introduced by Sajid Javid when he was Home Secretary, I think in, I think under Theresa May. And he, he said that

2:21.7

his ambition was to make the UK the safest place in the world to go online, which on the face

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