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Why Brexit Is Awkward For Andy Burnham

Newscast

BBC

Politics, Daily News, News

4.36.6K Ratings

🗓️ 18 May 2026

⏱️ 36 minutes

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Summary

Today, we look at why the subject of Brexit is awkward for Andy Burnham, the Greater Manchester Mayor who wants to be the Makerfield MP.

He was doing a speech today in which he clarified his position on the issue.

And Keir Starmer’s been out in front of the camera today with the same message - I’m not going anywhere.

Adam and Chris are joined by political correspondent Alex Forsyth, and diplomatic correspondent James Landale, who’s been looking at the question: Is Britain ungovernable?

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Newscast brings you daily analysis of the latest political news stories from the BBC. The presenter was Adam Fleming. It was made by Chris Flynn and Shiler Mahmoudi. The social producer was Joe Wilkinson. The technical producer was Jack Graysmark. The assistant editor is Chris Gray. The senior news editor is Sam Bonham.

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0:00.0

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0:06.0

Chris, have you been keeping up with the controversy on Newscast about what the Wigan-based snack, the Smack Barm, is?

0:12.9

So I would, I mean, I would say it's sort of bread bun, really, the actual, the bread itself.

0:18.0

And then into that goes your, you know, your scraps or your bit of fish or

0:21.4

your chips or whatever. But these are keenly contested vocabulary, isn't it? Because, I mean, is it a tea cake maybe? Or is it a, my wife who's from the Midlands and say it was a cob. Well, we've had a message from Amanda in Wigan, who is a newscaster and quite a few newscasters messaged us, but here is Amanda's message.

0:38.2

A smack barm indeed also exists and is a battered sliced potato on a barme cake, about £1.20-ish bargain.

0:45.6

You can ask for it with or without pee-wet, the juices of mushy peas which are skimmed and served

0:51.0

over your choice of delicacy. But as pee wet is free, it would just be rude

0:55.1

not to. It is a smack barm. A smack from a chip shop is not chips. It's one big slice of potato

1:01.8

deep fried and crunchy batter. Essentially, one big chip on a barm. Please see the attached photo,

1:07.9

and there is an attached photo, usually served with peas. Love the show,

1:11.6

excited to have all this happening on my doorstep. And Amanda's picture, I would describe as

1:15.9

a potato fritter in a morning roll with some mushy pea, very juicy mushy peas on top.

1:22.5

Yeah, it looks great from the picture I saw. Right, let's see what we can serve up in this episode

1:26.5

of Newscast. Newscast from the BBC. Humanity's next great voyage begins. We are in the midst of a rupture. Nostalgia will not bring back the old order. Sixth seven. Yeah. It's supposed to be me as a doctor. Daddy has also a special connotation. Ooh-l-la-law. Thinking about it like a pantor helped. Do we play music now? What do we do? Hello, it's Adam in the newscast studio. It's Chris at Westminster. And it's Alex in the newscast studio. And it's James also in the studio. And I'm just going to apologise to Alex and James because they were actually sat here, Chris, while you and I were having that bar, smack bar, whatever discussion.

2:02.6

And I just thought it was already complicated enough without two other people from other parts of the country intervening.

2:08.6

So would you like to have the...

2:09.6

Well, I mean, I've literally just come from another studio where I've been talking to an American audience.

2:14.6

And I said rather casually that that Labor was making

2:18.6

a horlicks of something. And suddenly I had to start explaining what a haulic means to an

2:24.0

American audience. So I understand entirely the need to explain a regional national idiom.

2:30.9

Alex, any local delicacies you'd like to bring to the table metaphorically?

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