Why Boys and Men Are Floundering, According to Relationship Therapist Terry Real

Modern Love

The New York Times

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🗓️ 14 May 2025

⏱️ 37 minutes

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0:00.0	Hey, it's Anna. Just a quick warning, there's a bit more swearing in this episode than usual.
0:05.6	So if you're listening with kids, maybe wait until later.
0:09.7	Love now and...
0:11.2	Did you fall in love? Love.
0:12.7	Love was stronger than anything.
0:15.0	I feel of love.
0:16.0	Love.
0:16.3	And I love you more than anything.
0:19.4	There's to love.
0:20.3	Love.
0:22.0	From the New York Times, I'm Anna Martin.
0:24.8	This is Modern Love.
0:27.9	Today, I'm talking to marriage and family therapist, Terry Real.
0:33.5	Dan, this is what I think you mean to be saying right now.
0:37.8	Fucking bullshit. No is what I think you mean to be saying right now. Fucking bullshit.
0:40.3	No matter what I do for you, it's never enough.
0:45.4	This is Terry reenacting one of his marriage counseling sessions.
0:49.3	And yeah, he said yeah.
0:53.1	Terry has just asked one of his clients, named Daniel, about the feelings he has during
0:57.8	what have become typical but explosive arguments with his wife. Terry asks, if the feelings
1:03.5	could talk, what would they say? And Daniel says back, kind of meekly, I try really hard. I try
1:10.2	to be a good person. But Terry thinks there's
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