Welcome to the dispatch podcast. I'm Jamie Weinstein. My guest today is

legendary Washington Post columnist George Will. We talk about everything that you

might imagine the Donald Trump verdict, 2024 election is real what is going

on on college campuses and much more I think you're going to find this conversation fascinating

so without further do I give you Mr. George Well. George Will,

welcome to the dispatch podcast.

I have to be with you.

George, it is my third time interviewing you, usually around a book, and it is always an honor for me to interview you because you are one of the reasons that I got into interviewing people and writing watching you on this week when I was very

young so it is an honor to get to interview for a third time.

I want to begin I guess at the news of the week or the news of the day.

Yesterday we're recording this on Friday a jury in New York found Donald Trump guilty.

I wonder what your reaction to the verdict was.

First one of sadness because it's a tremendous embarrassment for

our country. I think this was a flimsy case, a transparently political case. I have, of course, nothing good to say about the former president,

but I have a feeling, here's a thought experiment for you.

If you took each juror one at a time, put him in a chair in front of you and said describe the crime for

which Mr Trump has been convicted.

I'll bet you'd get 12 different answers and 12 of them wrong.

I think almost all campaign finance laws are you'd get 12 different answers and 12 of them wrong.

I think almost all campaign finance laws are unconstitutional.

They all have to do with regulating the quantity timing

and content in some case of political speech.

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