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Money For the Rest of Us

Why Bother Investing Internationally?

Money For the Rest of Us

J. David Stein

Investing, Investing Podcast, Business, Economics, Economy

4.51.4K Ratings

🗓️ 13 June 2018

⏱️ 35 minutes

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Summary

#209 Is it worth investing outside your home country given the risk? Should you hedge currency risk? What is the impact of Chinese "A" share listed companies being added to emerging market indices. More information, including show notes, can be found here.

Episode Summary

Should you be investing internationally? What are the benefits to having foreign stocks in your portfolio? Do the currency risks outweigh potential returns? On this episode of Money For the Rest of Us David considers these questions and more. Comparing different markets, understanding expected stock return projections, the benefits of hedging international stocks, and more are covered on this insightful episode – be sure to listen!

Why would anyone WANT to pursue investing internationally?

Many investors focus solely on domestic markets. Why? Because it’s familiar! They know historical market patterns and there’s no currency risk. Why then should you consider investing internationally? There’s one main reason – because your returns could be higher! To hear why investors are branching out into foreign markets, and some considerations you need to understand before taking the leap, be sure to listen to this episode.

This is why you can’t simply compare one country’s market to the next

When comparing international markets it’s essential to remember that you have to understand their differences in terms of sectors. For example, the US market is comprised of 26% tech stocks, while the world ex-US contains only 6.5% tech. The tech sector and its percentages in varying global markets is only one example why comparisons cannot be made simply. If you adjust your research to accommodate varying sector percentages, you can start to get an idea of which markets are more expensive than others – but these numbers are never set in stone.

Should you invest in hedged international stocks?

If you choose to invest internationally, should you hedge those investments? Hedging international investments can remove the currency exchange risk. Many investors find success in partially hedging their portfolios. It can reduce the amount of volatility associated with currency rate swings. However, in some market conditions, it can actually reduce your returns. For more information on the pros and cons of hedging while investing internationally, be sure to listen to this episode of Money For the Rest of Us.

Yes, there is risk in investing internationally – but there is opportunity as well!

No matter how much research you do before investing, there will always be risks involved. Any investing market, domestic or international, carries currency, political, and human factor risks. Just because one market has dominated in the past does NOT mean it will continue to prosper. No matter in which markets you choose to invest, always remember that diversification is key, timing is everything, and risk management is essential.

Episode Chronology

[0:45] Should you even bother owning international stocks?

[3:50] The importance of questioning our underlying assumptions

[8:24] There’s only one reason why you should invest outside of the US market

[9:06] How investing internationally affects the 3 drivers of asset class performance

[11:57] This is why you can’t just simply compare countries’ markets

[14:08] Expectations for stock returns over the next decade

[19:24] The importance of currency exchanges when investing internationally

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Transcript

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0:00.0

Welcome to Money for the rest of us. This is a personal finance show. It's on money.

0:05.0

How it works, how to invest it and how to live, without worrying about it.

0:10.0

I'm your host, David Stein. Today is episode 2009. It's titled,

0:15.0

Should you even bother owning international stocks?

0:20.0

A few weeks ago I got an email from Drew a listener and he sent me an article from

0:28.4

Investment News and his title John Vogel says investors don't need to own international stocks.

0:36.8

Bogle was quoted in the article saying,

0:40.3

Everyone Tells Me I'm Wrong. In my book, Bogle on investing, I said, for a lot of reasons

0:47.1

you don't need to own international stock. Bogle's reasons are that international stocks are more risky.

0:58.0

And those risks include currency risk, economic risk, societal instability risk, according to the article, but Bogle published

1:11.8

Bogle on Investing in 1993.

1:15.0

And since then, until the article was published last year in 2017,

1:19.0

the S&P 500 Index, it's a measure of U.S. large company stocks, gained 779% cumulative,

1:30.4

versus 309% for the Europe, Australia, and Far East index, which we know as IFA.

1:41.0

So it's doubled.

1:42.0

U.S. has doubled on a cumulative basis, what developed non-US has done.

1:48.0

I've been right, says Jack Bogle. Does that mean I'll be right in the future? I could be wrong. But he then

1:59.5

pointed out according to the article that the S&P 500, half the companies earnings or half the earnings

2:08.7

and revenues come from abroad, from overseas.

2:15.0

Now, he didn't point out that because half the earnings and revenue comes from overseas,

2:22.0

there's currency risk involved in that.

2:26.8

It's not, you don't see it, it's hidden, but those companies' sales are impacted by a, for example, a strengthening dollar.

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