If she is in some kind of secret or not so secret revolt against him, which I think she might be,

in the times that she has come out, that has not been good for them. The Epstein thing, drawing attention

to that, her just peculiar attitude about everything, her absence, her strategic absences, this is not good for them, and it's not necessarily controllable for them.

Michael.

Joanna.

Oh, my goodness.

Do you think either Melania or Donald Trump know that Melania has written an ode to motherhood in the Washington Post?

Well, having read the ode to motherhood in the Washington Post by Melania Trump, I would say

certainly that she didn't write it, so it makes sense that she didn't read it.

And he doesn't read anything.

So, yeah, I think this probably has a completely independent life from both of them. But having said that, I mean, I think this probably has a completely independent life from both of them.

But having said that, I mean, I think it's part of what we're now seeing.

This is the new Melania, and the new Melania is brand Melania.

It's all about how she sees her future business, which is the Melania business.

So now she's speaking up for motherhood in such a peculiar way also.

Yeah, yeah.

It makes no sense.

She's speaking up.

It would seem for single mothers everywhere.

I'm totally perplexed by this.

Okay, so for those of you who don't know what we're talking about,

this is an op-ed that Melania Trump has written ahead of Mother's Day on Sunday in the Washington Post.

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