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The Pomp Podcast

Why Bitcoin Will Crash Like Every Other 4 Year Cycle | Henrik Zeberg

The Pomp Podcast

Anthony Pompliano

Business, Investing

4.81.9K Ratings

🗓️ 15 September 2025

⏱️ 54 minutes

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Summary

Henrik Zeberg is the Head Macro Economist at Swiss Block. In this conversation we talk about the macro outlook, K-shaped economy, inflation, a potential big tech bust coming, why the 4-year bitcoin cycle is not going anywhere, and why Henrik believes risk assets may be in trouble. 

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TimeStamps:

  • 0:00 - Intro

  • 2:14 - Where are we in the macro cycle?

  • 10:41 - Are we getting a blow off top in risk assets?

  • 13:14 - Historical stock market valuations vs today

  • 26:36 - What happens in the next 12 months if we are in a bubble?

  • 30:01 - Is bitcoin 4 year cycle different this time?

  • 34:33 - Thoughts on where inflation is going

  • 38:29 - The framework for being a good investor for the next 10 years

  • 42:03 - What does the monetary reset look like?

  • 45:54 - How to prepare your investing portfolio


Transcript

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0:33.3

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