Hi, everyone. Today's episode is the special two-parter. First, I'm joined by Lawrence Lepard, a longtime sound money advocate, gold investor, and the author of The Big Print. We talk about why he believes the current monetary system is headed toward a breaking point, why Bitcoin

could be the fastest horse in a currency crisis, and how he sees gold, stocks, and the dollar

fitting into that bigger picture. Then, in part two, filmmaker James Craig joins me to discuss

his new documentary, Code is Law, which looks at some of crypto's most infamous hacks, from the

Dow to indexed finance, Khyberswap, and Mako markets. We'll start with Lawrence, but first,

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Download Binance today to get started. Welcome, Lawrence. Hey, Laura. Welcome. Nice to see you.

I'm excited to chat with you. So for those in the

audience who may not know you, you are an investment manager and at Equity Management Associates.

And you're also the author of the Big Print. I am. Sound money advocate for many, many years.

Yeah. So I really enjoyed reading your book. You know, as I mentioned, you wrote this book

called The Big Print, which was published earlier this year. And you recently went viral for a

tweet in which you told gold proponent Alasdair McLeod, you stupid fucking fossil in response to comments that he made that Bitcoin is run

by shysters, crooks, and Ponzi schemers. So before we get into the details around, you know,

all your views and everything, why don't you just tell people how you became interested in

Bitcoin in the first place? Yeah, sure. By the way, that tweet, I kind of regret that tweet.

He triggered me, but there's one thing I get triggered by, it's questioning my honor. And when he said we're, you know, we're all shysters and Ponzi schemers, and I've known Alastair for a long time, I've been a big gold guy. And I was just like, I'd had enough. You know, it was just like, come on, man, get, you know, wake up.

I mean, you can say you don't like, I'd had enough. You know, it was just like, come on, man, get,

you know, wake up. I mean, you can say you don't like Bitcoin, that's fine. But, you know, this is a legitimate asset class. And he, he of anybody should know that. But I got into Bitcoin a long time ago. I came to it, as you know, and that's partly, you know, why I was so mad about a gold guy taking a shot at Bitcoiners.

As a gold and silver guy, you know, pre-8 2008, if you believed in sound money as I have for 30 years,

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