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On this week's interview episode, we have Professor Sarah T. Roberts, she's a professor

of information studies at UCLA.

Just written a book called Behind the Screen, which is all about content moderation.

As I went know, we're very interested in content moderation on the show and on the

site.

KC Newton has been writing a bunch of pieces about what it's like to actually moderate

Facebook in America.

Sarah has been working on this book for a year.

It's a deep dive into what she calls commercial content moderation, the business of content

moderation, how it's structured, where it came from, where it's going, how it works.

She talks to content moderators in America and the Philippines, companies big and small.

She says content moderation, the way we think about it, it's not really a speech problem

for these companies.

It is fundamentally a brand management problem for companies that sell advertising, which

is what Google and Facebook and all the rest do.

Really interesting conversation.

The book is out now.

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