Hey, Greg Loria with my good friend John Irwin.

Welcome to my podcast.

And John and I are going to talk about a lot of things.

John is a filmmaker, extraordinary.

And we first got to know each other a number of years ago when you came to me with a cover of Time magazine, with a sort of psychedelic image of Jesus on it and with the words Jesus

Revolution. I think you were in your late 30s when we met, maybe 39. I don't, you know, it's years,

it was 2015. I'm 42 now, so someone do the math. I'm on a press tour. I'm tired. But, but

basically, I remember even before that, and to your credit,

I was doing a film called Woodlawn before the film I can only imagine.

And there was a prayer where a stadium full of people,

all of which were digital in the movie,

prayed the Lord's Prayer.

And we needed the audio to it.

And so to your credit, because you had no idea who I was.

I'm this young filmmaker.

And I'm like, hi, Pastor Laurie, great to meet you.

Could you at your SoCal event,

just have everyone pray the Lord's Prayer for me for a movie?

Like, that's how the relationship started.

And it was like a week before.

And you did it. And that audio is in the movie, and I'm grateful.

And then I had bought a magazine.

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