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This is Recode Media of Peter Kafka, the special semi-emergency podcast that I'm taping live from BuzzFeed World

headquarters in New York City with outgoing BuzzFeed News editor-in-chief, Ben Smith. Welcome, Ben. Thank you for crossing the street, Peter. Welcome to your own podcast. It's good to have you here in your rival podcast headquarters here. You mentioned that you've got low blood sugar. We won't take a ton of your time. I don't want you to pass out on air, although that's a good point.

You know, that was off the record, Peter, the low blood sugar thing.

I already have people tweeting about my eating habits. My therapist actually has noticed the tweets about how I once ate a hamburger off Sayy Jones's desk. It's like a whole issue. I'm sure that now you're going to the New York Times, you'll have much less scrutiny.

The reason, as anyone listening to this podcast, knows that we are talking today is that yesterday,

Tuesday, was a Tuesday? You announced that you are the new media columnist in New York Times,

or you will be in March, and I want to talk to you about why I made the decision and also your

tenure at BuzzFeed. You are a super old media guy, a very New York

media guy, and also a very online guy. And I'm wondering if the way it played out yesterday,

once you announced that you were leaving, is what you imagined you would see online, in print,

in text. You were telling me off air that you went and read all the emails and saw all the tweets after making the announcement last night. Yeah, I mean, I actually, I mean, I, you know, I was mostly focused yesterday on how people here would take it. Like, I love this place and, and feel so connected to it. And I think was really, I felt like people here really know me and i think kind of understood that i

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