Hey everyone, you're listening to Code Switch from NPR.

I'm Bea Parker.

And I'm Gene Demby.

All right, so Gene.

Yep, yep, yep.

Are you an outdoorsy guy?

Oh, man.

I would say that I'm outside curious anywhere.

Like, you're going to catch me camping of my own volition necessarily or like of my own sort of initiative

but if somebody said oh we're going camping i'm like cool i'm i'm cool with it yeah i'm i'm open to

outside experiences outside outside experiences i hate how about you i would say that I would like to go glamping someday.

Like, one of those like two bedroom inflatable tents.

Oh yeah, yeah.

Because I mean like this summer's weather has got me thinking about getting outdoors more going to the park.

Like prospect park?

Like, I don't like park.

Like national park. No, no national parks. I, uh, why not? That's, that's, that's, that's too much. It's too, that leads to hiking. This kind of reminds me of, uh, like our second ever episode of codes, which 10 years ago, if you can believe it, my then

co-hosts, Shereen Marisol Mara Rage and Adrian Florido, who was our teammate at the song.

Yes.

They were talking about all kinds of ways that people of color, like, try to be outside in the,

you know, in national parks, in outdoors these spaces, and how like all the ways of stuff is

coded to be like for white people.

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