Sometimes I think I should shut up and not say the things I say on podcasts.

David Senra.

David Senra.

The guy's name is David Senra. He's got a podcast called Founders. To even get on Founders' Podcasts, you have to be so good at your job. Somebody wrote a fucking book about it. That's an insanely high ball. It's almost like it's an obsession. It is. I'm addicted. I've known you now for, I don't know, four or five years.

I think you are crazier now than you were.

I'm addicted. I've known you now for, I don't know, four or five years.

I think you are crazier now than you were. I'm not balanced. I don't think I can be balanced. I don't think I want to be balanced. I want to be the best in the world at what I do. People are like, oh, 10,000 hours. I'm way past that. Like, way past that. So, of course I've changed. I'm not doing this to stay the same.

The difference between the world's greatest and pretty good, it's not a little bit better. It's not 20% better. It's like thousand times better. And that is hard to grasp. Mediocrity is invisible until passion shows up and exposes it. I've become intolerable for people that are casual, and I don't even know why I'm like that.

I think I was lying to myself for a while that I don't need anybody else.

I wanted professional success to say I was born in the wrong environment and I will prove to you

that I am not like the rest of these people. It's almost like a revenge for being born. Are you a happy person? I don't think you're happy. I... I feel like I can rule the world. I know I could be what I want to. I put my all in it like no days off. On a road, let's travel, you have to look this guy, Elud Kipchogi. You have to see what he looks like. He looks more like a gazelle than a human being. Because the thing about world class athletes and runners is you see them like when they're exerting themselves and like wearing their like running gear or whatever. And so they like, yeah, he looks amazing. But then you see him in real clothes and you're like, oh my God, that person is so much skinnier, has so much less body fat than the average show. How on earth are these two human beings, both human beings, like a normal person versus Elut? And so he runs the marathon, I think, of like 201, which is like 436, I think, for the mild, crazy fast. And what we were saying was the difference between the world's greatest or the best there ever was and pretty good,

you know, it's not a little bit better. It's not 20% better. It's like 10 times better or a hundred

times better or a thousand times better. And that is hard to grasp. Do you agree? Yeah. I mean,

you asked me like, what am I think? Right before we started recording, you saw what I was doing? Like,

what are you thinking about? And I was like, I'm thinking about how this looks. And you're like, what am I think? Right before we started recording, you saw what I was doing it? Like, what are you thinking about?

And I was like, I'm thinking about how this looks.

And he's like, but does that matter?

I was like, everything matters.

Like, we're trying to be the best in the world at what we're doing.

So, like, we have to take everything very, very seriously. I think the only thing I'm obsessed with,

there's actually one of the best pieces of advice I ever got

that I won't shut up about,

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