I was talking to Trayvon Martin's brother, and this is what he said to me. He said, if it weren't

for athletes, you know, nobody would know my brother's name. And I said, well, what do you mean?

He said when Trayvon Martin was first killed, the family was trying to get the local newspapers,

local media, anybody to cover the story to tell people what happened. And they, none of them wanted to cover it.

But then, you know, you had LeBron James and Duane Wade, you know,

and the entire Miami Heat team pose with the hoodies.

And then you had, you know, Carmelo Epidy and Kevin Durand and everybody else,

you know, posing with their sons with, you know, with hoodies and talking

about Trayvon Martin and things like that.

Then people started to look into it.

Welcome to the Edge of Sports Podcast.

I'm Dave Ziren.

This week, we speak to 10-year NBA veteran Aton Thomas about his new book, We Matter, athletes and activism. You're going to want to hear what he has to say. Because in this book, he doesn't just interview athletes from Russell Westbrook to Bill Russell, to Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, to Swin Cash. What he also does is he talks

to family members who have led the movement for justice against police violence. And the way that

he weaves these interviews together is absolutely remarkable. And we're going to speak about that.

Also, I've got choice words about Michael Bennett

and him saying goodbye to Seattle to join the Philadelphia Eagles,

one of the great activist athletes that we have.

And someone who I'm also, by the way,

writing a book with that comes out in a couple weeks

called Things That Make White People Uncomfortable. Please get a copy if you support this podcast. the way, writing a book with that comes out in a couple weeks called things that make white

people uncomfortable. Please get a copy if you support this podcast. I also got Just Stand Up

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