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Unchained

Why Arthur Hayes Thinks the AI Bubble Bursting Could Spark a Crypto Bull Market

Unchained

Laura Shin

News, Business News, Tech News

4.61.3K Ratings

🗓️ 12 May 2026

⏱️ 58 minutes

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Summary

Arthur Hayes sees one force driving markets right now: governments printing money to finance AI and war. He explains why that ends with Bitcoin much higher — and what could derail it. ======================================================== Thank you to our sponsor! ⁠Coinbase One⁠: Get 20% off the first year of your Coinbase One annual plan at ⁠coinbase.com/unchained⁠. ======================================================== Maelstrom CIO Arthur Hayes called the Tehran toll booth scenario in writing — and now it's playing out. Sovereign nations are waking up to the fact that dollar assets don't buy oil when the strait is closed.  On this episode, Hayes joins Laura Shin to explain why the structural unwinding of petrodollar recycling forces the Fed to print, why an AI deflationary bust could rival 2008 in severity before central banks step in, and why that path ends with Bitcoin substantially higher.  He also breaks down his current highest-conviction positions: Hyperliquid, Zcash, and NEAR, and explains why he's deploying into what he calls maximum disillusionment in private crypto equity. Host: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Laura Shin⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, Host / Unchained Guests: Arthur Hayes — CIO, Maelstrom Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hi, everyone. Welcome to Unchained. You're no hype resource for all things crypto. I'm your host,

0:06.5

Laura Shin. Thanks for joining this live stream. Today's guest is Arthur Hayes, CIO of Mailstrom.

0:12.8

Welcome, Arthur. Hi, thanks for having me again. Yeah, excited to chat. So we've had you so many times on the show. And I would say if I were to just

0:23.7

condense your thesis for Bitcoin and crypto down to one thing, it usually involves money printing.

0:30.7

And I'm sure you're very well aware that Trump is saying that, you know, the ceasefire in Iran

0:35.5

is on life support.

0:42.4

You know, we're seeing this prospect of potentially like some kind of energy crisis looming.

0:48.4

And your recent crypto-haze substack piece starts with you anticipating what you describe as the incipient bull market.

0:50.0

I'd love to hear why do you think that a bull market is around the corner?

0:54.4

So I think at the end of the day, wars are inflationary, especially the U.S. around war is no different.

1:01.9

And what's happening in terms of AI and defense and commodity stockpiling, I think, points to inflation around the world and pretty

1:13.8

much any fiat currency you can imagine, especially in the United States.

1:18.5

And if you take a look at what Trump has done, whether you agree with it or not, you know,

1:23.4

if you think about the themes that are going to continue past whatever happens with

1:27.5

the how this war ends or you know continues into perpetuity is nations are going to spend on

1:32.6

AI and drones nations are going to spend on redefining their supply lines whether that's

1:40.5

building pipelines sourcing goods from other countries, stoppiling commodities.

1:47.1

And these two things together lead to an inflationary environment, and the central banks

1:52.4

and the commercial banks are going to step up to the plate and create the credit needed

1:56.5

to make sure that this happens, at least in developed markets or very wealthy sort of non-developed

2:03.3

markets. So unfortunately, if you're in Bangladesh, you're fucked. If you're in Philippines, you're

2:07.6

fucked. People might starve. People might die. But at the end of the day, most people don't

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