Why Arteta is prioritising substance over style
The Athletic FC Podcast
The Athletic
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🗓️ 4 February 2026
⏱️ 36 minutes
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Summary
Arsenal are through to the Carabao Cup final after a 4-2 win on aggregate over Chelsea.
So how significant would a first trophy in six years be for Mikel Arteta and his side?
Host: Ayo Akinwolere
Guests: James McNicholas, JPB
Executive Producers: Adey Moorhead, Guy Clarke
Producers: Mike Stavrou, Nick Thomson, Liam Warburton
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| 0:00.0 | The Athletic FC |
| 0:03.1 | Welcome to the Athletic FC podcast with me, I am Akimuelere. |
| 0:09.4 | Arsenal are through to the Carabal Cup final. |
| 0:12.2 | How significant would a first trophy in six years be for Mikhail Artetta and his side? |
| 0:19.9 | Right, with me in the studio, we've got James Met Nicholas. |
| 0:22.3 | We've also got Jack Pittbrook as well. |
| 0:25.0 | All right, James, you were at the Emirates last night, |
| 0:27.2 | a tense and cagey match, I might say, |
| 0:29.6 | until that moment of elation at the end. |
| 0:32.2 | On by Trussar. |
| 0:33.5 | He's in at the old side. |
| 0:35.8 | Royce deployed across, |
| 0:54.2 | and Kai Habats to send Arsenal to Wembley! Yeah, I mean, let's talk about Kai Havert to start with. I mean, what a goal to seal it off with? What was the reaction around the stadium when Kai Havert, former Chelsea player, scored the winning goal? Yeah, and he wasn't shy about celebrating, was he, against his former club, pointing to his Arsenal badge on his chest as well. It was amazing actually because the press |
| 0:58.3 | box at the Emmett Stadium is right behind the dugouts. And I think most Arsenal fans |
| 1:02.8 | found themselves wondering how much stoppage time could possibly be left. I think six minutes |
| 1:06.9 | ratted on and we were into the seventh minute when Havitt scored. But actually before the |
| 1:11.2 | ball was even in the net, some of the substitutes were basically on the pitch. Ricardo Califiori went a bit early, I think. As soon as he saw Havats go around Sanchez, he thought, this is it, I'm gone. He was up and over the pitch. Nonimadueke got there faster than some of the outfield players in his coat from the |
| 1:28.9 | bench, which was pretty impressive. |
| 1:30.0 | And they were amazing scenes. |
| 1:31.1 | I think it was the elation, the relief, knowing that with this goal it was done, they're in the |
| 1:37.5 | final. |
| 1:38.2 | But I also think this was about Kai Havits as well, who's had a really difficult 12 months, |
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