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And welcome back, so the culture wars, right?

This is the Republican strategy, nobody likes their policies, particularly their economic policies,

their political policies, their labor policy, their, you know, the Republicans are opposed to

Americans having free healthcare or even low cost healthcare. They want us to pay through the

nose for drugs. They want students to be in debt. They want college to cost a fortune.

They don't want our roads and bridges repaired. They want our cities falling apart. They want lots more

guns all over the place. People aren't buying this stuff, so what do they do? They start screaming

about culture wars stuff. Oh my God, there's gays in the bathrooms and stuff like this. It's

nuts, but it turns out it's also very profitable. And this is pretty surprising. Matthew Cunningham

Cook is a reporter with the lever, levernews.com. David Seroda's new operation there. Matthew Cook,

Matthew C. Cook, number five is his Twitter handle, as well as at lever news. And Matthew,

welcome to the program. Tell us about the profiteers behind the culture wars.

To start out with, who's this Chris Rufo guy or Rufo? How are you seeing it?

It's Rufo. Thanks for having me on Tom. Sure. Yeah. So Chris Rufo is a guy who just came out of nowhere

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