Do you ever struggle with spiritual apathy?

I think if we're honest, it's something that all Christians wrestle with from time to time.

And when we're in the middle of a spiritual rut, we can quickly start to question our faith and wonder if things will ever change.

In our interview today, I'm talking with Uche Anasor, Associate Professor

of Theology at Talbot School of Theology, and the author of Overcoming Apathy, Gospel Hope

for Those Who Struggle to Care. Uche and I discuss his own story of wrestling hard with apathy,

seven deadly causes of spiritual apathy that we should

all be on the lookout for in our own lives, and how to take steps back toward God when we

realize that we're not doing well. Let's get started. Well, Uche, thank you so much for joining me today on the Crossway podcast.

Great to be here.

So spiritual apathy seems like one of those, maybe we'll call it a vice.

Maybe that's not the right word for it, but it's one of those things that we don't often discuss,

at least in my experience in the church, at least not as often as we discuss a whole

host of other struggles that we often face as Christians. And yet it strikes me that this topic

is, it's a pretty prevalent thing that we've all experienced in some way or another at different

seasons. So I wonder if you could first define what would you say spiritual apathy actually is simply,

and then why don't you think we talk about it very much in the church?

Those are really good questions.

Yeah, so I'm defining spiritual apathy as something that's more than those sort of temporary

feelings of, you know, I'm not excited about church, I'm not excited about reading my Bible or something along those lines.

That it's more of like a prolonged state of just not wanting to engage in the things of God, whether it is things like reading scripture or whatever whatever but just not not really having the sort of

energy desire motivation to engage in them and so it's kind of a prolonged feeling of stuckness like

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