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Useful Idiots with Katie Halper and Aaron Maté

Why are US Progressives Pro-War?

Useful Idiots with Katie Halper and Aaron Maté

Useful Idiots, LLC

News Commentary, Politics, News

4.64.5K Ratings

🗓️ 21 October 2022

⏱️ 51 minutes

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Summary

Click here for the full episode, including the extended interview with Medea Benjamin: https://open.substack.com/pub/usefulidiots/p/extended-episode-why-are-us-progressives?r=je5va&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web For $5 a month, become a Useful Idiot! Get extended interviews, Thursday Throwdowns, and a chance to have your comment read on the show in the Absurd Arena at http://usefulidiots.substack.com With AOC (and the Squad by extension) being recently heckled for their support of sending weapons to Ukraine and prolonging the proxy war, Useful Idiots had anti-war activist Medea Benjamin on to explore the question: when did US progressives become pro-war? Benjamin, known for such bold acts as announcing “Here comes the war criminal!” as Donald Rumsfeld entered the White House Correspondents Dinner, is the founder of Code Pink, a women-led grassroots organization working to end U.S. wars and militarism. She discusses how building an anti-war movement was easier during the Iraq War, while the left now has become more divided and often in support of proxy wars like Ukraine. This, she explains, stems from US demoralization efforts: “During the Iraq War, we were able to build a movement that got hundreds of thousands of people out into the street. The problem is, that did not change Bush’s decision to invade Iraq, and so many people were demoralized. It made people question putting their energies in front of this war machine.” But Benjamin urges us not to give up hope. “We have to recognize that it is our absolute responsibility right now. And I do feel as I travel around the country that there are many people recognizing the need to go in front of the offices of their representatives and protest, to educate their friends and families, I think we are in the midst of building up again.” And, importantly, we need to “keep the pressure up on the Biden administration.” To educate yourself, your friends, and family, Medea Benjamin’s book and short video are great learning tools. And follow Code Pink to support their activism and their coalition Peace in Ukraine. Plus, this week we announced two new features: Thursday Throwdowns: Our new mini-episodes premiering each Thursday to get your exclusive dose of midweek media madness. This week, we watched the Tapper/Biden interview. The Absurd Arena: The Useful Idiots discussion board for people who think you can talk back to a podcast. Share your opinions and get your questions and comments read on the show. Get it all at http://usefulidiots.substack.com It’s all this, and more, on this week’s episode of Useful Idiots. Check it out. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hello and welcome to Useful Idiots. I'm Katie Halper.

0:09.0

And I'm Mary Matek. How are you Katie?

0:11.0

I'm good you.

0:12.0

Good we have some big news to drop. Big changes coming to Useful Idiots.

0:17.0

Yeah. So we always invite you. We offer you the chance to become useful idiots by which we mean subscribers to Substack.

0:25.0

And you should definitely subscribe even if you just subscribe for free. That's good. But if you subscribe for $5 a month, you get exclusive content.

0:35.0

You get extended interviews. But we're going to offer you even more perks, even more reasons to become members of the useful idiots clan, which you can do at useful idiots. Substack.com.

0:48.0

So what are we offering you? Well, we are offering you a new exciting feature. It's called useful idiots throw down Thursdays.

0:58.0

Our new mini episodes premiering each Thursday where you can get your exclusive dose of mid week media madness. So we're going to watch things like Jake Tapper and to be invited and other corporate tools looking like idiots.

1:14.0

Because just doing it once on Monday morning is just not enough. There's too much media madness that we need to make.

1:20.0

Yeah, there's too much media madness and it doesn't all happen on Sunday morning news shows, which is what we focus on on Monday mornings.

1:26.0

Exactly.

1:27.0

So we're bringing you all the all the cable news media hits that we don't have time to address slash happen on non Sunday morning times. So you're welcome everyone.

1:37.0

So that's just another reason to become useful idiots that subject calm useful idiot heads. What else can they get Aaron?

1:46.0

Also, we're launching something that Wilson has done the absurd arena, which is the useful idiots discussion board for people who think you can talk back to a podcast.

1:58.0

So we can put up at you, so it's that sub stack calm where you share your opinions and ask us questions. And every week will answer some of those questions right here on the show.

2:08.0

In fact, so should we respond to two of them from this week. Let's do it. Yeah. Let's do it. All right. Yeah.

2:14.0

Wilson, you want to read them to us?

2:16.0

Yeah.

2:37.0

I've been trying to think of ways we can frame a call for peace that is difficult for propaganda's to counter. Is there another path that can produce peace?

2:46.0

It is a very tough question because yes, we are living in a upside down world where those who call for peace are now ostracized and demonized.

2:58.0

It doesn't matter how sane you sound and how many facts you have on your side just because of the way the culture is right now where the only anti-war voices in like Congress are those on the fringe right to most liberals and call for peace will just sound cookie.

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