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Why Are Firefighters Battling Wildfires Without Masks?

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KQED

News, Politics, News Commentary

4.2 • 726 Ratings

🗓️ 25 August 2025

⏱️ 56 minutes

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Summary

Imagine approaching a wildfire with nothing but a bandana to protect you. That’s how U.S. Forest Service firefighters typically battle blazes – with no masks or other respiratory protection. New York Times reporter Hannah Dreier recently headed into the field to find out why. We’ll talk to Dreier and a California firefighter about why it’s been so hard to change the culture and policy around protective gear and how firefighters are dealing with the life-threatening effects. Guests: Hannah Dreier, investigative reporter, The New York Times Joe Perez, firefighter based in Northern California Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Coming up on forum, imagine approaching a wildfire with nothing but a bandana to protect you.

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That's how U.S. Forest Service firefighters typically battle blazes with no masks or other respiratory protection.

1:23.0

New York Times reporter Hannah Dreyer headed into the field to find out why.

1:37.5

We'll talk to Dreyer and California firefighters about the challenges of changing the culture and the policy around masks and other similar protective gear and how firefighters are dealing with the life-threatening effects of wildfire smoke.

2:03.0

Forum is next'm Mina Kim. Fire crews are getting a handle on the picket fire burning in Napa Valley, which is now 13% contained after breaking out Thursday and sparking evacuations as it grew to more than 6,000 acres. Meantime, the Gifford Fire in Central California, the state's largest so far this

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year, is approaching full containment after burning more than 130,000 acres since August 1st. New York

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