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Hello.

I'm joined by Jack Howard.

Yes, and if you're watching us on YouTube, you'll know that Mark is doing an obscene gesture, that only you can see if you are watching on YouTube. You don't get that on the podcast. I'm wearing a Sparks T-shirts. No, it was like, it was what were you doing with your hands? Only people on YouTube could see that.

You're just imagining all this sort of stuff happening.

Anyway, this week we're talking about film festivals

so Jack and I are both back. you were doing with your hands? Only people on YouTube could see that. You're just imagining all

this sort of stuff happening. Anyway, this week we're talking about film festivals, so Jack and I

are both back from film festivals on opposite sides of the world. Yes. With very different

experiences of them and very different sides of the divide. So, come out on film, Jack Howard,

film. Let's go. Tell me where you're just back from, because actually, in your case,

it's more immediately important. I mean, for those who don't know, the listeners and viewers that don't know, I've made a short film called The Second Time Around. You should have mentioned it before. If only you'd said something about it. Have I not mentioned that I'm a filmmaker? No, no, you haven't. I really need to make sure I establish that going forward.

Yeah.

So, second time around.

The second time around, which is currently playing... I'm a filmmaker. No, no, no, you haven't. I really need to make sure I establish that going forward.

Yeah, so, second time around. The second time around, which is currently playing film festivals across the world. It recently was in the Edinburgh International Film Festival. Yes, where I was, but you weren't there. Because you were meant to me, because we were going to meet up and have a beer. Yes. And then you weren't there. And I couldn't go because I was strongly, it was strongly suggested to me that I go to Los Angeles

for the Holly Shorts Film Festival.

Which is?

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