All right, Taise, welcome to the man talk show. How you doing today? I'm doing great. I'm happy to be here

with you and appreciate you having me. Yeah, likewise. I think we'll, we're going to do a wonderful

deep dive into attachment, which I think my audience is very used to and loves this topic. And I think

you've got some good angles on this. So it's going to be great. Where I kind of wanted to start was

what is happening to attachment at a social level, at a cultural level. What do you see happening?

Because we can talk about the individual and we don't need to get into

politics or anything like that. But it seems like attachment in a collective sense is getting

wildly disrupted. So I'd love for you to talk to that if you're open to that to begin with.

Yeah, I think there's sort of two things happening.

I think number one, there's this sort of phenomenon as people sort of learned about their

attachment style a little bit more where they were like, oh, now I just am this attachment style

and they sort of came to identify with that as a label rather than understanding that your attachment

cell really is sort of the subconscious

set of rules that you've learned about how to give and receive love. And we can write,

why are those, we can change those. We can become more adaptive if we have a whole bunch of

maladaptive patterns. But then I think second to that is that we're seeing because of social media

and Instagram and dating apps and all of these things, it's disrupting the way that we are

used to attaching. There's this lack of us really working through things in relationships

culturally. There's a lot more short-term gratification. And I think that's disrupting our ability

to really work through things in relationships and become more secure together.

What would you say is the most disruptive

element of social media or dating apps to our attachment? And like, what do people need to be

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