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Why Is This Happening? The Chris Hayes Podcast

Why Americans Are Dying So Young with Anne Case and Angus Deaton

Why Is This Happening? The Chris Hayes Podcast

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News, Nbcnews, Why Is This Happening?, The Chris Hayes Podcast, Chris Hayes, Politics, Government, Society & Culture, Msnbc, Withpod

4.68.9K Ratings

🗓️ 20 June 2023

⏱️ 57 minutes

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Summary

Life expectancy in the U.S. has been on the decline, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. While the COVID-19 pandemic killed more than 1 million people in America, 2014-2015 was actually an inflection point for mortality rates. What went wrong and what’s behind the downward trend? Our guests this week point out that drug overdoses, suicides and alcoholism have fueled an increase in what they term ‘deaths of despair.’ Anne Case is the Alexander Stewart 1886 Professor of Economics and Public Affairs, Emeritus at the Princeton University School of Public and International Affairs. Angus Deaton is a Nobel Prize Winner and Senior Scholar and the Dwight D. Eisenhower Professor of Economics and International Affairs Emeritus at the Princeton School of Public and International Affairs and the Economics Department. Together, they published their groundbreaking findings in 2015 and later co-authored “Deaths of Despair and the Future of Capitalism” in March of 2020. Case and Deaton join WITHpod to discuss what their findings reveal about capitalism and the U.S. healthcare system, education-related disparities in mortality, what might be done to reverse the surge in deaths and more.

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0:00.0

We should note this episode contains discussion of suicide.

0:03.5

If you or someone you know is having suicidal thoughts or mental health related to stress,

0:08.1

dial 988 for the 24-798 Suicide and Crisis Hotline.

0:12.9

To text with the train helper, text Safe, SAVE, V-E, to 741-741.

0:20.4

The idea that after a century of decline, we would actually see mortality rates going

0:26.5

up.

0:27.7

And it wasn't being reported.

0:29.9

We thought, well, maybe we did something wrong.

0:32.6

Maybe we should recheck our numbers, which we did.

0:35.8

We took them on the road.

0:37.0

We took them to medical schools and talked to our favorite demographers.

0:41.4

And this came as a surprise to everyone.

0:43.6

So then we've really started to dig.

0:46.2

What you've got here is a social epidemic of self-destruction.

0:51.0

And that's a really horrible thing.

0:52.4

I mean, it's bad enough when a pandemic comes along, but at least it's comprehensible.

0:57.1

We can see what it is.

0:58.6

We can put it in the context of society.

1:01.2

Hello, and welcome to Wise This Happening with me, your host, Chris Hayes.

1:10.2

The topic of today's podcast is something that I am really, really obsessed with and

1:15.0

very focused on.

1:16.0

And I think it is the number one policy challenge, the number one social challenge in America

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