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Plain English with Derek Thompson

Why American Happiness Just Fell Off a Cliff

Plain English with Derek Thompson

The Ringer

News Commentary, News

4.72.1K Ratings

🗓️ 8 May 2026

⏱️ 59 minutes

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Summary

America is richer than ever. Unemployment is low. Wages are high. According to traditional metrics, the economy looks strong. So why are Americans feeling so bad? Today, Derek talks with bestselling author Morgan Housel and journalist David Wallace-Wells about what Derek calls the “Tragic Twenties”: the strange and sudden collapse in American happiness that began during COVID and never really stopped. What's behind the country’s emotional downturn? Inflation and the lingering psychological effects of the pandemic are certainly part of the story. But so are collapsing trust in institutions, rising social isolation, the negativity feedback loop of social media, and the feeling that we’re living through one crisis after another. Derek, Morgan, and David unpack why the wealthiest society in history still feels deeply adrift and what this happiness recession says about the future of American life. Subscribe to our YouTube channel here: https://www.youtube.com/@PlainEnglishwithDerekThompson If you have questions, observations, or ideas for future episodes, email us at PlainEnglish@Spotify.com. Host: Derek ThompsonGuests: Morgan Housel and Derek Wallace-WellsProducer: Devon BaroldiAdditional Production Support: Ben Glicksman Links: https://www.derekthompson.org/p/if-americas-so-rich-howd-it-get-so Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Right, home from work, walk the dog, kids are back.

0:09.0

Mom! Up the stairs for something.

0:12.0

Ugh. Back down. No idea what I went up for.

0:16.0

Mom, what's for dinner? Chop, sizzle, done.

0:21.6

Hello Fresh can't slow life down, but it makes bringing everyone together around the table a whole lot easier.

0:28.6

So its phones down, forks up.

0:30.6

Hello Fresh. Bring back dinner time.

0:33.6

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0:35.6

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0:38.4

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0:40.5

Because behind every headline is a bottom line.

0:44.4

Whether it's the funds-fueling AI or crypto's trillion-dollar swings,

0:49.0

there's a money-side to every story.

0:51.6

And when you see the money-side, you understand what others miss. Get the money-side of the story. And when you see the money side, you understand what others miss.

0:56.0

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0:58.0

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1:04.3

The United States was a reasonably happy country for a long time.

1:08.9

It is not happy now.

1:13.9

That's a quote from a new paper by the University of Chicago economist Sam Peltzman, analyzing data from the longstanding general social survey.

1:20.6

He showed what he called a sudden, sharp, and historically unprecedented decline in self-reported

1:26.9

happiness in the U.S.

1:28.2

After COVID, which persisted through 2024, the latest year through which that survey counts.

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