I am pleased to be joined today by Stephen Beschloss.

We're going to have a conversation about what's going on all around America.

Stephen, good to see you.

Good to see you, Steve.

We haven't done this for a while.

I'm happy we're doing it today.

There's a few things to talk about, I suspect.

How do you think about the journey the country went on over the summer?

I tend to look at the seasons as a middle-aged guy, you know, through the prism of my

political years, right? Labor Day has a very specific

meaning. November is the election. You got Christmas time. The kids are back in school in September,

you know, summer and fall or baseball season. But when you look at Trump raises his hand on January 20th, you go from January 20th to

Memorial Day, right, from Memorial Day to Labor Day. What happened in the country from Memorial Day to

Labor Day this summer.

Yeah, that's interesting.

I would say, and I've been thinking about it mostly in the context of why people haven't been more active and being out in the streets more.

I mean, we did have the no Kings protests that happened in June. That was a reason for optimism.

Something like five million people came out across the country.

That's a start.

It needs to be more than double than that.

Surely if you go by the 3.5% rule,

12 million of the population as a sort of a baseline.

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