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🗓️ 9 May 2025
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Why even self-help authors can still be messy.
Glennon Doyle is the CEO and Founder of Treat Media, an award-winning media company that makes art for humans who want to stay human. She is an author, podcaster, producer, and philanthropist. Her books include the #1 New York Times bestsellers Untamed and Love Warrior; the New York Times bestseller Carry On, Warrior; and Get Untamed: The Journal.
Abby Wambach is a two-time Olympic gold medalist, FIFA World Cup champion, six-time winner of the U.S. Soccer Athlete of the Year award and one of Time’s Most Influential People. She is a founder of Treat Media, and the author of the #1 New York Times Bestseller Wolfpack and the New York Times bestseller Forward.
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0:00.0 | It's the 10% Happier Podcast. I'm Dan Harris. |
0:07.7 | Hey, gang, how we doing? There are many reasons why I enjoyed this conversation, but perhaps |
0:24.2 | chief among them is that I personally feel a special kinship with people who write self-help books |
0:30.9 | and yet who are still very willing to admit that they continued to occasionally be a fuck-up. |
0:36.5 | Glennon Doyle and Abby Wambach are each stars in their own right. |
0:40.8 | Glennon is a huge best-selling author of books such as Untamed. |
0:44.3 | Abby is a two-time Olympic gold medalist in soccer and also a best-selling author in her own right. |
0:50.2 | And together with Glennon's sister Amanda, they host a huge hit podcast called We Can Do Hard Things. |
0:57.0 | And they are now out with a new book, also called We Can Do Hard Things, where they talk about 20 of life's biggest questions. |
1:05.1 | In this conversation, we talk about a time of significant personal struggles that happened pretty much simultaneously for Glennon, |
1:12.5 | Abby, and Glennon's sister, Amanda, which led them to writing this book. We talk about why people |
1:18.6 | in the self-help world don't always have their shit together, why trauma leads to dissociation, |
1:23.1 | how to go on after the experience of grief, why we are the way we are, family roles, attachment |
1:30.1 | theory, and learned behaviors, the possibility of personal change, and our thoughts on the latest |
1:36.3 | season of White Lotus. |
1:38.2 | Before we get started, I just want to let you know about something. |
1:40.5 | Very cool that we're going to be doing in the second half of May. |
1:43.4 | We are going to be doing a live second half of May. We are going to be doing |
1:44.7 | a live meditation mini-series each weekday from Monday, May 19th to Friday, May 23rd at 4 p.m. Eastern. |
1:53.1 | I will be leading a short guided meditation, and then I'll be taking your questions. The whole |
1:57.4 | mini-series is going to center around a set of practices that I often refer to as the Buddhist antidote to anxiety. |
2:04.2 | And I'm not making this up. |
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