This is the Gary V. Audio Experience.

I really appreciate you coming by.

Thanks for having me.

We talk to a lot of skill builders, lots of skill builders, building voice experiences.

You've been talking a lot about voice in different ways of using voice.

Here's something that I've seen a lot of different industries actually, but particularly

in voice right now. It's a very inventive time.

You're getting a lot of the Indies coming out of the woodwork to like, what could we do?

It wants super creative. I think that happens in music and movies and like all the Indies

sort of push us into the new world.

One of the things I've seen a lot of these folks do is get something built

and they love it. It's their baby. They've made this thing. It's really cool.

It actually is quality stuff. But then they see other people

getting more success and things are taking off and things are having like, well what's happening?

They're very focused on the art.

I love to get you to take on how do you take something more than just the art of it into

bringing something for vision.

My career for the people who are watching that don't know is I'm a marketer

and I'm an operator and I'm a business builder.

As you were talking, it makes me think a lot about when I talk to sound cloud or

I talk to hot topics, you know, Spotify artists or when I talk to entrepreneurs

that have apps on the iPhone when it first came out.

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