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Why A Second Trump Term May Be More Radical

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πŸ—“οΈ 14 December 2023

⏱️ 48 minutes

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Summary

New York Times reporter Charlie Savage says Trump has a plan β€” and potentially the backing β€” to purge the federal bureaucracy, which he disparages as "a deep state that's filled with villains."

Also, film critic Justin Chang shares his top 10 films of the year.

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Support for this podcast comes from the Newbower Family Foundation, supporting W. HYY's Fresh Air

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and its commitment to sharing ideas and encouraging meaningful conversation.

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This is Fresh Air. I'm Tanya Mosley. As the nation gears up for the

0:15.5

2024 presidential election, former President Donald Trump faces 91 felony

0:21.2

charges across four criminal cases.

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He's also ahead in the polls, well ahead by the double digits against his Republican opponents,

0:29.5

and even ahead of President Biden in several polls. During a town hall on Fox news last week

0:34.9

commentator Sean Hannity asked Trump about concerns that if reelected he would be a

0:40.5

more radical and authoritarian leader this time around.

0:45.0

The media has been focused on this and attacking you under no circumstances.

0:50.0

You are promising America tonight.

0:52.0

You would never abuse power as retribution against

0:56.6

anybody except for day one except for day one meaning I want to close the border and I want to

1:04.5

drill he says you're not going to be a dictator are you I said no no no other than

1:08.6

day one we're closing the border and we're drilling drilling drilling

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drilling after that I'm not a dictator that was

1:14.8

former president Trump on Fox News speaking at a town hall with Sean Hannity

1:19.5

our guest today Charlie Savage writes about presidential power as well as security and legal policy for the New York Times.

1:27.0

He's written two books about presidential power. The first is Takeover, the return of the Imperial presidency and the subversion of American democracy, which he wrote in 2007.

1:38.0

It's about the Bush Cheney administration's efforts to expand presidential power. He's also written a book called Power Wars,

1:45.6

The Relentless Rise of Presidential Authority and Secrecy, which is a book about

1:49.9

Obama's post-9-11 presidency.

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