4.8 • 985 Ratings
🗓️ 2 June 2017
⏱️ 60 minutes
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In this episode, Bryan speaks with Eric Shidell about some of the basics of system freezing, what causes it, and what to do about it.
Freezing is a normal part of some equipment, such as low-temperature freezers and outdoor units on heat pumps. On straight-cooling systems, freezing is NOT normal and indicates poor operation. Ice formation starts on the evaporator coil and may spread to the compressor via the suction line. The best way to remove ice and defrost the system is to pull the disconnect on the outdoor unit but let the indoor fan keep running. Or, you could turn the unit off but leave the fan on.
The goal is to defrost slowly and steadily. Defrosting too quickly could potentially cause damage. Horizontal air handlers in the attic can flood the home if ice forms and melts off too quickly. In an upflow furnace, defrosted ice could damage the electrical components.
You will typically find low suction pressure on frozen systems. Many technicians who merely attach gauges and don't thoroughly inspect the unit for freezing will mistake the low pressure as a result of a low refrigerant charge. However, low pressures are a SYMPTOM, not the cause of freezing.
Freezing is generally caused by poor airflow over the evaporator coil. As frost appears on the evaporator coil, airflow will be further impeded. On top of that, the suction pressure drops even more. From there, all of these factors feed each other and cause the frost to snowball out of control (almost literally). Sometimes, coils may freeze due to low refrigerant, but the amount of ice will typically be minimal compared to freezing that occurs due to an airflow issue.
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0:59.7 | Today we're going to talk about freezing frozen coils, frozen compress coils, frozen suction lines, what causes |
1:05.2 | it and what doesn't cause it. |
1:07.7 | And I want to confess something before you, because you're going to start listening to this |
1:10.2 | episode and I don't know Eric so the our guest today Eric |
1:14.4 | Shidell is somebody who I've read up on him I know some of what he's done he's |
1:18.4 | some really good stuff out there but I don't know him personally he's not he |
1:22.0 | hasn't been active in the group so I haven't been able to |
1:23.8 | converse with him a lot and so we start off strong but then we hit this point |
1:27.6 | where it gets a little awkward where I'm kind of like worrying what's he gonna |
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