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Why a border wall divides even Trump voters in Texas

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USA TODAY

News, Daily News

4.11.2K Ratings

🗓️ 3 April 2026

⏱️ 15 minutes

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In Big Bend, Texas, residents across party lines are voicing strong opposition to the Trump administration’s plans for a new border wall, arguing it would disrupt communities and threaten a beloved region along the Rio Grande. USA TODAY National News Reporter Lauren Villagran traveled to Big Bend and joins The Excerpt to share their concerns.

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0:00.0

In the run-up to the 2016 presidential election, perhaps nothing divided Republicans and Democrats

0:11.1

more than the idea of a border wall stretching along America's southern border with Mexico.

0:17.4

I would build a great wall, and nobody builds walls better than me, believe me, and I'll build them very inexpensively.

0:24.6

I will build a great, great wall on our southern border, and I will have Mexico pay for that wall.

0:32.1

Mark my words.

0:34.0

More than a decade on, those sentiments have now shifted sharply during the second presidency

0:40.3

of Donald Trump.

0:41.3

Do Democrats want the wall or do Republicans want the wall? I hadn't found either side that

0:46.3

wants a wall. So it's a unified consensus. I mean, I would say, best I can tell from people

0:53.3

I've talked to, 99.9%. I haven't found anybody yet that wants a wall down here.

1:00.0

That was Starlight Theater restaurant owner Bill Ivy, a three-time Trump voter and Texan through and through.

1:07.3

It turns out that Nimbism runs deep in the Big Ben region of Texas, a place where the majestic Rio Grande swirls its way through jagged canyons.

1:17.5

For many here, Republicans and Democrats alike, the idea of a Big Ben border wall is now being met with a resounding, not in my backyard.

1:31.4

Thank you. met with a resounding, not in my backyard. Hello and welcome to USA Today's The Excerpt.

1:34.2

I'm Dana Taylor.

1:35.2

Today is Friday, April 3, 26.

1:38.4

2026.

1:39.7

USA Today national news reporter Lauren Villagran traveled to Big Ben, Texas to listen to the concerns of those who feel threatened by the president's plan to spend billions on a border wall in the region. So good to have you back on the excerpt, Lauren.

1:54.2

Thanks, Dana. Lorne, as I mentioned, you were just there speaking with people in the area. What's the mood in Big Ben right now?

2:02.8

Well, Dana, it is fired up, is how I would describe it. I don't think I met a single person in

2:09.0

four days in the region who didn't have something to say about President Donald Trump's

2:14.3

plans to build a border barrier in that region.

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