You refer to a lot of these K K K K K Kansmen as your friend.

Are they really your friends or are they more acquaintances you get along with?

Both. In the beginning, there was one clan and chapters of that clan spread all over the place.

Today there is no such thing as the Ku Klux Klan.

Because of all the infighting, and why I realized it right at the market the king was assassinated.

I just didn't know why. Why do people hate you? They don't know you.

You had worked with Chuck Berry for 30 plus years.

I played all this hits with him. What are your thoughts on Jackie Wilson?

Oh man, one of the British singers of all time. And for some reason he's not as famous

as Elvis as Chuck Berry. He's a reason for me.

Tell me why.

The reason is racism.

There were no black idols on TV.

Why are black people so angry towards you?

I'm sitting down talking with the enemy.

I'm talking about the oppressors.

If you want to be heard, then you have to hear the other people too.

So I allow them to speak.

And then they allowed me to be heard,

and over the time they realize, you know what,

I didn't change my direction.

That's how you're able to sit down with these racist KKK members

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