Dr. Lindsay Ryan thinks a lot about how to convince her patients to get vaccinated.

She works in an ER in San Francisco, sees all kinds of people.

She says even the hesitant ones, she thinks they're reachable.

A lot of people, even if they might not be totally conscious of this fact, have some

internal conflict around it.

Why do you say that?

I say that because most people's lives have been heavily affected by the pandemic.

Most people want a sense of normalcy.

There's often a little bit of tension if you explore it between the fact that people

are scared of coronavirus.

People have seen it affect their loved ones, their family, their co-workers at this point.

And there's some security, there's benefit to protection.

Lindsay simply believes it's possible to convince anyone to get the COVID vaccine.

She believes in this so much that she started training college students to go out into communities

and just talk to people about it, listen to their concerns, always with the goal of getting

more shots in arms.

Do the students talk about how effective the vaccines are?

Yes, I would say that's been shown to be a pretty convincing argument because these

are some of the best vaccines ever made.

They're way more effective than vaccines like the flu shot.

And I think a lot of people don't know that they're almost 100% effective, excepted people

like me.

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