Dr. Lindsay Ryan thinks a lot about how to convince her patients to get vaccinated.

She works in an ER in San Francisco, sees all kinds of people.

She says even the hesitant ones, she thinks they're reachable.

A lot of people, even if they might not be totally conscious of this fact, have some internal

conflict around it.

Why do you say that?

I say that because most people's lives have been heavily affected by the pandemic.

Most people want a sense of normalcy.

There's often a little bit of tension if you explore it between the fact that people are

scared of coronavirus. People have seen it affect their loved ones, their family, their co-workers

at this point. And there's some security. There's benefit to protection. Lindsay simply believes

it's possible to convince anyone to get the COVID vaccine.

She believes in this so much that she started training college students to go out into communities and just talk to people about it, listen to their concerns, always with the goal of getting more shots in arms.

Do the students talk about how effective the vaccines are?

Yes, I would say that's been shown to be a pretty convincing argument because these are

some of the best vaccines ever made.

They're way more effective than vaccines like the flu shot.

And I think a lot of people don't know that they're almost 100% effective, except in people like me.

You might have missed what Lindsay said just there.

They're almost 100% effective, accepted people like me.

Lindsay's got an autoimmune condition.

Even though she's a doctor, even though she was vaccinated back in December,

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