I won't tell you that it's gonna be okay.

I won't tell you that it's gonna be okay.

Welcome to another episode of Boccaricell podcast.

Today is a dope episode.

We're going to talk about some stuff that John need to know about, right?

You know, we have amazing people that come on the show everywhere

from Jada Pinkett to Ciceleid's Tyson, Hillary Clinton, etc. But I'm going to tell you that Howard Conyers may be the most important guests we've ever had on this show because we're going to end a lot of debates.

We're going to end a lot of disputes. We're going to talk about something that's arguably the most important thing that we have that's barbecue

But we gonna before we get to that Howard what's happening man how you feeling today man

Man I'm doing good because I'm not pleasure to be on the show with you today.

I'm glad to be him.

We start each one of our shows by having our guests walk us through the arc of their

career and yours is a is a varied one. You've done a lot of different things. You're an engineer, an author, a story, and an entrepreneur. Talk about your upbringing and manning and how you got into all the things you're doing now.

So coming from Clarin and County, Pactsville,

one of the most significant areas in South Carolina,

in terms of history and culture, history and culture,

for sure, and what it means to the black community.

The love of education really drove my early growth.

Growing up on a farm, it led me to leaving Manning after I graduated,

going to North Carolina A&T studying

Biosystems engineering.

Then after that I went to get my master's in PhD

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