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From WBEZ Chicago, this is Norette.

I am not Greta Johnson, but you did make it to the weekend, congratulations.

I'm producer Anna Bowman, filling in for Greta, who is out this week.

Today, we're going to look back at two of our favorite conversations from last year.

Later in the episode, cookbook author Roxana Julipot makes the case for baking with whole grain flowers.

I always wanted to make this second time-honored delicious goods, just with better ingredients.

But first, we're starting things off with a story about pushing yourself to your limits

and coming out stronger for it.

Nearly every morning over the course of the pandemic, Jennifer Hoffman has jumped into Lake Michigan

around sunrise in every type of weather.

Greta talked to her on a frigid winter day last February.

So, I think we should start with the big obvious question, probably, why do you do this?

Um, you know, I think the Y has changed a little bit.

I mean, now there's several components.

I think the Y for me originally was I was dealing with some pretty heavy personal things

in my life, and it was COVID, and I just felt like it could help.

I mean, it seems like a great way to really get out of your head.

I think that for me was also something so important.

And I think when you swim in cold water, I didn't realize it at the time, but I think what

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