Who You Are Aside From What You Do & What You Produce w/ Wellbeing Expert Jen Fisher
The Kevin Miller Podcast
Kevin Miller
4.5 • 1.4K Ratings
🗓️ 26 January 2026
⏱️ 68 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome. I'm Kevin Miller, and this is a podcast for your personal evolution. In this episode, |
| 0:07.4 | who are you aside from what you do and what you produce? So the episode is a dive into the |
| 0:16.3 | awakening of self-awareness and a connection to what really matters in your life. |
| 0:21.7 | This has been my journey for the past few years as I've unraveled my identity from what I do |
| 0:28.0 | and what I achieve and learn to embrace who I am aside from any producing or achievements, |
| 0:36.2 | which at first I couldn't even conceive of. So my guest here is a |
| 0:39.8 | kindred spirit in having worked themselves to the bone to prove their worth to themselves and |
| 0:45.3 | everyone else. Jen Fisher, she's a global authority on workplace well-being, the best-selling |
| 0:52.0 | author of Work Better Together, and the founder and CEO of the well-being, the best-selling author of Work Better Together, and the founder and CEO of |
| 0:56.8 | the well-being team. So Jen was Deloitte's U.S. first chief well-being officer who pioneered a |
| 1:05.5 | groundbreaking human-centered approach to work that gained international recognition and reshaped |
| 1:10.8 | how organizations view |
| 1:12.4 | well-being, or at least the ones that adopted her concept. Well, from her personal experiences |
| 1:17.5 | with burnout and cancer to her role as a trailblazer in well-being intelligence, Jen has |
| 1:24.0 | dedicated her career to helping people thrive, physically, mentally, and emotionally. |
| 1:28.1 | So Jen has a new book titled Hope is the Strategy, the Underrated Skill that Transforms |
| 1:34.7 | Work, Leadership, and Well-Being. |
| 1:36.8 | As you're about to hear, Jen shares, she says, my identity had slowly merged with my output, |
| 1:43.3 | and I became what I produced. |
| 1:46.0 | Who can relate to that other than myself? |
| 1:49.4 | She says she realized she had no real hope in anything, so she just worked to stay busy, |
| 1:54.3 | filling in the void with production and accomplishment. |
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