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Past Due with Ana Marie Cox and Open Mike Eagle

Who Wins When Everyone’s a Freelancer? with Adam Conover

Past Due with Ana Marie Cox and Open Mike Eagle

Ana Marie Cox, Open Mike Eagle, and Andrew Steven

Arts, Performing Arts, Business, Society & Culture

4.66.4K Ratings

🗓️ 15 July 2026

⏱️ 52 minutes

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Summary

Comedian Adam Conover joins us to unpack the real costs of the so-called "creator economy" from algorithmic gatekeeping to the crumbling of stable creative jobs. Get more at http://patreon.com/pastdue Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

If you struggle with bloating gas, constipation, digestive issues, yeast overgrowth, well,

0:05.5

you may already know about digest this. It's the podcast hosted by me, Bethany Cameron, also known

0:12.2

as Little Sipper on Instagram. I dive into gut health, nutrition, the food industry, and drawing

0:17.9

from my own experience. I break down what's good, what's bad, and what's

0:22.1

the best for your gut, your skin, and so much more. I even offer gut-friendly recipes. New episodes

0:29.2

every Monday and Wednesday produced by Wellness Loud. If you're enjoying this conversation,

0:34.0

good news. Is the creator economy? Actually, just a euphemism for the collapse of stable media jobs.

0:39.6

And then we've all been turned into freelance independent contractors.

0:44.2

And like, it's hard, it's simply harder to build a life that way.

0:47.5

Like, it is not better to be a freelancer.

0:50.3

Adam Conover build a career pulling back the curtain on how things really work.

0:54.6

From Adam rules everything to factually.

0:57.2

So what does he see happening to artists, entertainers, and media workers right now?

1:01.9

What is something you're really in a golden age of independent creators?

1:06.2

Or is this just the wreckage of a once stable industry repackaged his opportunity?

1:11.3

It is not better for your life.

1:13.9

A couple people in very specific situations prefer it, and that's fine for those people.

1:18.9

But as a means of employment, overall, the fact that the entire media industry has gone

1:23.7

from employed with pension and health plans to freelance, hope that the you know, the YouTube back end gives you enough money to pay rent this month?

1:32.3

Like, that's bad for America.

1:34.3

If you think Hollywood, journalism, and media will simply bounce back from strikes, layoffs, and the shift to digital, this episode might make you rethink everything.

1:44.3

What if the future media isn't just different, but fundamentally broken?

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