You know, try to take bias out.

Yeah, sure.

Oh, yeah.

Who wins a national championship in football first, Oklahoma or Texas, you think?

Because I think you can make an argument for either one, truly.

I think you could too.

I think you could too.

Even this year.

Boy, that's tough.

That is really, really good.

It's a pleasure. It's a pleasure. Dari Noca, ESPN, SEC Network, first time meeting you, sent me on a wild goose chase. But it was worth it, man, to get it here. I don't know, man. I don't know why I thought I was at one hotel and then you're texting me, hey, I'm here. And I'm like, I don't know.

Then you said you're at 4th Street and I'm looking around.

I go, I'm like, that's 7th and that's 8th. We got a problem because I'm nowhere near it. Thanks for coming to get me, man. I appreciate it. Yeah, no problem. We're VIP treatment for a VIP. So we really appreciate you taking the time. And I'm sure most of the people that know about you know that you're from Oklahoma, right?

You're an Oklahoma grad from Tulsa.

Yeah.

Can you kind of share just, you know, you're growing up and love for Oklahoma football or all the sports in general? Yeah, absolutely.

I mean, I grew up like most of us in this business, just kind of, you know, I didn't really watch cartoons. I watched sports. I watched reruns of old games and, you know, old school sports center. That's pretty much it. I mean, as a kid, I didn't, like, I wasn't much of an athlete, you know, small and still small. And I loved every sport, though.

Loved every, you know, we would play pickup basketball and football in random yards.

And I played baseball through high school, but not like for my high school team, more of a rec league team.

But I loved it.

I loved the competitiveness of it.

I loved just kind of seeing how seasons

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